tommydee....never apologize for a long post, sometimes that's what it takes to get the facts out and the point across. I'm with you on banning mysurvey. If we stick together it will work. We sent OTX packing didn't we? We are the people and we do have the power! For every person that cancels, there are 10 more if not more willing to take his place, so no, that isn't way they pay so shitty. They pay us shite because THEY CAN. You are also correct about the fact that the marketing company has no idea what the survey companies pay us, and when they do find out it ticks them off. I like your idea of contacting the marketing companies directly when we get screwed. Hit them where they hit us...below the belt. Yes, you're right times are tough on all of us, not enough money to go around etc.; well I may lose my house, lost my job in 2008 and still looking for employment, but I am willing to do what it takes to get these survey companies to practice fair and ethical business with all of us surveyers; after all, I still have my pride left if nothing else. (LOL) Nobody works for free, certainly not me, when I have a job (lol) I have to find humor when things go awry else I'll go insane. Trust me, if we all stick together, united as a whole, these survey companies will get the message. They know who the good surveyers are and who are the lazy, get a fast buck ones are. When they only get the latter, they'll start seeing things our way. Keep me posted, I'm willing to do whatever needs to be. We have no other recourse.